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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #41
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Well ye i meant that. Try to get DA on your PD(tombs?), it's hard, you should be focussing on other things. + You cant interupt shields up at all.

And if there's a ward, aegis and DA its gonna be harder.


And sorry about making up the 40/40. It just made sense to me to add that if you want a 10% (not 20%:P)
Its hard but good mesmers can handle that with Diversion and PD. My main mesmer Miss Velvetine would have no problem with that.

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Uh 60ar + 20 ar buff = 80ar
Uh UH UH UH Cracked Armour? 60armour +20armour -20armour=60Armour

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43   #42
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Yes easily and you can cycle it with shields up as well. Shouts don't need any buffs.
I think they need nerfs, especially shields up. There should be more counters than rigor mortis.

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Its hard but good mesmers can handle that with Diversion and PD. My main mesmer Miss Velvetine would have no problem with that.
In GvG you have blinders, monks and cripshots to divert. Usually glyph of energy and not PD as elite, so it would actually be hard to get rid of DA. Still no denying your mesmer cant take care of shields up. Is she really yours?

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Uh UH UH UH Cracked Armour? 60armour +20armour -20armour=60Armour
Cracked armour? You use that in every build? Oh ye, ranger spike right? How about warriors? 80+16+10(if he doesnt fail)+20-20=still 106. Basicly disables shell shock.

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48   #43
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Is she really yours?
Mine in so many ways... its illegal.

As for the GvG Factor Sin splits I believe handle this problem of an invincible main team.
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Mine in so many ways... its illegal.

As for the GvG Factor Sin splits I believe handle this problem of an invincible main team.
Not everyone plays sin split. Shouts are overpowered and you're just trying to buff them. It's not like I wouldn't be able to handle shouts, they just are already overpowered and shouldn't be made worse. + splits are not supposed to kill any main teams rlly.
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Uh UH UH UH Cracked Armour? 60armour +20armour -20armour=60Armour
The fact that every skill has an appropriate counter does not mean said skill is balanced if the counter is awkward/uber specific.

Now, it would be "nice" to have longer lasting chants/shouts. But really, give me one good reason why it is neccessary to add this inscription. What great injustice is being done by not having them?
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The fact that every skill has an appropriate counter does not mean said skill is balanced if the counter is awkward/uber specific.

Now, it would be "nice" to have longer lasting chants/shouts. But really, give me one good reason why it is neccessary to add this inscription. What great injustice is being done by not having them?
There would only be injustice if Anet was to be adding them, unless they made all normal durations 10% shorter.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #47
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Cracked armour? You use that in every build? Oh ye, ranger spike right? How about warriors? 80+16+10(if he doesnt fail)+20-20=still 106. Basicly disables shell shock.
Since when are warriors a threat to anything? Kill the monks the team dies.

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There would only be injustice if Anet was to be adding them. Unless they made all normal durations 10% shorter.
Injustice? There's no injustice having/not having the inscriptions and the suffix mod. If they were added the supposed "overpoweredness" could/can be contained. Personally since the description of Sardelac Sanitarium was to post your ideas I posted it. Most of the reason for the post was because I liked the name "Iron Lungs". I m not crusading for jackshit moron.

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57   #48
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Since when are warriors a threat to anything? Kill the monks the team dies.
You cant kill monks with DA and shields up and watch yourself, unless they are really bad.
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As if Paragon's aren't imba enough.
This would be overkill.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #50
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You cant kill monks with DA and shields up and watch yourself, unless they are really bad.
Well since apparently you missed the whole Necromancer and Mesmer Class I guess you're right.

And honestly you morons realize that you are bitching and complaining about a duration boost of a second or less right? The "Spear Grip of Charisma" would be the only thing that would come close to an imba state.

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Old Feb 20, 2008, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #51
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Well since apparently you missed the whole Necromancer and Mesmer Class I guess you're right.
You run gvg with necros? Bloodspike I suppose?

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As if Paragon's aren't imba enough.
This would be overkill.
You just said it all.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05   #52
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You run gvg with necros? Bloodspike I suppose?
Nope I don't GvG and if you lose to bloodspike you suck son. And I could care less about the GvG flavor of the month as it is with HA. If the inscriptions were made GvG Flavor would change and then you could go to pvxwiki and get it for your rank 6,500 Guild.

Looks like you lose again. Why do you keep bitching and moaning about a single idea that Anet doesn't give a shit about? Seriously I posted it for fun and jokes actually to see PvErs reply and then I get this stubborn douche bag that's r5 Hero that keeps hounding me over GvG.

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Nope I don't GvG and if you lose to bloodspike you suck son.
That's his point. He thought YOU were using blood spike and was saying it was a bad build. He knows it is a bad build.

Seriously, every other post of yours is full of "you suck" comments that are unfounded. Chill out and read stuff carefully before posting.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42   #54
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why not a -2 dmg while under the effcts of a chant for focii and shields?
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The +20% enchantment duration do not make enchantments harder to remove.
At least you can remove enchants easily, you can't even touch shouts/chants. There's really no need to make them even more OPd.

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Old Feb 20, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01   #56
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At least you can remove enchants easily, you can't even touch shouts/chants. There's really no need to make them even more OPd.

Therefore, /notsigned
You have stated this unwanted and unnecesariy opinion twice I believe and I've given more than enough solutions for this. So unless you have something new to say that one million other people haven't said or haven't thought of, then by all means post it. Since you failed to do that you just spam pointlessly and waste my time responding to an idiotic post which if you were a good forum user you would of read my reasons for posting the idea in the first place. Upon reading that you would of realized that I stated it would have some room for abuse but 1 second is nothing for you to freak out about and express your pointless opinion.

In all seriousness you morons that are saying Paragons and shouts are overpowered you are missing the point that these inscriptions would give them a buff yes, but the inscriptions could just apply to chants and Echoes. Also this is just an idea I had and I don't appreciate having moron after moron scream that a +.4-1second add on to a duration is over powered. The shouts might be overpowered but this thread is not about overpowered builds. So learn the place where your posts belong.

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That's his point. He thought YOU were using blood spike and was saying it was a bad build. He knows it is a bad build.

Seriously, every other post of yours is full of "you suck" comments that are unfounded. Chill out and read stuff carefully before posting.
First off they start off as "you suck" comments and then they turn into a solution to their constant bitching. Most of the time at least. And as for chilling out I was mad from the second post I made and if you read them I gradually calmed down. Now another way to look at it is that the only way to get your point across to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOtards that claim they know all about PvP and immediately assume that these inscriptions will RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO over the GvG Flavor of the Month and the HA Flavor of the month gets quite tiresome to reply to over and over. In which I mostly state the basic solution to the problem and as for my posts to Noobie what's his face. He started it and I ended it. So I would say that I am pretty calm and as for the Morons that do /signed and /unsigned let me state this very clearly Anet does not give two shits about if you did /signed one billion times or /unsigned a billion times. If the GMs like it. Guess what, its thrown into the game. Now don't get me wrong Public Opinion does come into play but its Ultimately up to the GMs.

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You have stated this unwanted and unnecesariy opinion twice I believe and I've given more than enough solutions for this. So unless you have something new to say that one million other people haven't said or haven't thought of, then by all means post it. Since you failed to do that you just spam pointlessly and waste my time responding to an idiotic post which if you were a good forum user you would of read my reasons for posting the idea in the first place. Upon reading that you would of realized that I stated it would have some room for abuse but 1 second is nothing for you to freak out about and express your pointless opinion.
Sorry, who are you? I'll say it for the second time, they are overpowered and don't need a 20% duration increase.
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Sorry, who are you? I'll say it for the second time, they are overpowered and don't need a 20% duration increase.
Ladies and Gentle Men Gather around. This here idiot thinks the post was about a spear grip. Well I am very sorry that you are confused and don't know what the difference is between an inscription and a spear grip. I believe someone had a wiki link that will help end your ignorance of the matter and maybe you'll have something intelligent to post next time.
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What the hell is this? The thread was calm. Everyone was debating peacefully and giving reasonable arguements for and against, presenting them without flame... and then VexedLucifer exploded on everyone and ruined his own thread!

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